Flat Earth Religion

Global Recognition

(pardon the phrasing)

The Flat Earth Community is not affiliated with any particular religion. The reason why the topic comes up so frequently is due to outsiders attempting to dismantle our arguments by attacking the belief rather than the facts.

The religious angle for proof of a Flat Earth is supposed to establish a timeline that this idea has been around forever because around the world it can be atributed to Gods word. This wasn't one or two crazy people telling a story, this story was told by powerful people whom we now see as prophets. In multiple religions.

Simply writing the quotes taken out of context in each religion cannot serve as proof of a Flat Earth because context does matter. It is important to understand how these books relate to each other to understand to understand how the differen treligions come to the same conclusion. For example, I could say that there are Flat Earth references in Judism, Christianity, and Islam by reffering to a single line in one book they all follow (The Book of Genesis).

Language can be beautiful; the translation of words does not only come from the connection of different languages, it comes from the connection of our experiences. This makes religion is a complicated subject, for humans are corruptable and make mistakes and the carefully constructed words of the divine has different meanings and connections to those before than they do now. Most importantly though, a prophet is a human, and a human can be wrong.

Below is a summary of each religion that can be associated with a Flat Earth. Included in each section is a breif description of the religion, how it relates to others, and quotes with multiple verses. Simply writing the quotes taken out of context in each religion cannot serve as proof of a Flat Earth because context does matter. People cite scripture in the Flat Earth Commnuity because the idea is not taboo if it has a million followers. These are old books with a universal timeless message. These books are carefully worded documents of historical record.

Abrahamic Religion

Abraham lived in a world completely dominated by polytheism and he is known for being The First True Monotheist. Because Abraham spent his life seeking God, God ultimately revealed Himself to Abraham. God commanded Abraham to leave his homeland and travel to "the land I will show you", which ended up being Canaan. In exchange, God promised to make his descendants a "great nation".

Unfortunatly, Abrahams first wife Sarah was unable to bear a child. Following ancient Near Eastern legal customs, she gave Hagar to Abraham as a secondary wife so she could bear a son on her behalf, Ishmael. When she was very old, three mysterious visitors announced she would finally have a child. Sarah laughed in disbelief, but later gave birth to Isaac. His faith was tested most famously when God asked him to sacrifice his beloved son. An angel stopped the sacrifice at the last second after Abraham proved his absolute devotion.

The three largest Abrahamic religions are Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. All three trace their religious heritage to Abraham and share many of the same prophetic figures and foundational narratives, particularly those surrounding Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Joeseph and Moses. However, each religion interprets these figures, their teachings, and their relationship with God differently.

Christianity and Judesim: Tanakh / The Old Testement

Judaism and Christianity share the Hebrew scriptures, but they organize and count the books differently (Splitting the Book of Samuel into Samuel 1 & Samuel 2, The Twelve Minor Prophets merged into one book The Twelve, ect.).

The Torah Collection: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy

Nevi'im (Prophets) Collection: Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Samuel, Kings

Ketuvim (Writings): Psalms, Proverbs, Job, Daniel, Esther

The Tanakh = (Torah, Prophets, Writings) = The Old Testament

Protesant Christianity incorporates the The Hebrew Bible (Tanakh) scriptures as its Old Testament. At the time Christianity was established, most Jewish scriptiure had been translated to Greek, so Cathliocs added some additional Jewish writings (Tobit, Judith, Maccabees). Eastern Orthodox Christians added broader Greek-scriptural traditions (Esdras).

In this section is a list of Flat Earth quotes taken from the books that both Christianity and Judeism follow.

The Waters Above, The Waters Below

Reffering to the waters outside the dome; Heaven is the light fresh water above and Hell being the deep unforgiving waters below.

The Book of Genesis: Chapter One: 1-11

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day. And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good. And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.

This text was written (at least in part) by the prophet Moses in 1400 BCE. In this text, the first words recorded in the bible, the creation of the Earth is described. To create the earth, the first recorded act of God is the seperation of water from what we know now to be space, and the waters that are now on our planet. This text is why the Firament model has the earth surrounded by waters, with a physical vault (the dome) that seperates them.

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The Book of Deuteronomy: 5:8, 33:12 ; The Book of Exodus: Chapter Twenty

“You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below."

“May the Lord bless his land with the precious dew from heaven above and with the deep waters that lie below;"

In the text of The Ten Commandments, God once again refers to the waters below, as well in the Book of Deuteronomy. Unlike in the book of Genesis, the deep waters becomes a placeholder for somewhere that is not heaven, nor the earth, but somewhere else that is dark and unforgiving.

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Job 20:28 A flood will carry off his house, rushing waters on the day of God’s wrath.

Job 11:16 You will surely forget your trouble, recalling it only as waters gone by.

Deuteronomy 11:4 what he did to the Egyptian army, to its horses and chariots, how he overwhelmed them with the waters of the Red Sea as they were pursuing you, and how the Lord brought lasting ruin on them.

Samuel 5:20 So David went to Baal Perazim, and there he defeated them. He said, “As waters break out, the Lord has broken out against my enemies before me.” So that place was called Baal Perazim.
Nehemiah 9:11 You divided the sea before them, so that they passed through it on dry ground, but you hurled their pursuers into the depths, like a stone into mighty waters.
Psalm 32:6 Therefore let all the faithful pray to you while you may be found; surely the rising of the mighty waters will not reach them.

Psalm 77:16 The waters saw you, God, the waters saw you and writhed; the very depths were convulsed.

Psalm 74:13 It was you who split open the sea by your power; you broke the heads of the monster in the waters.
Proverbs 18:4 The words of the mouth are deep waters, but the fountain of wisdom is a rushing stream.

God uses the deep water below as a form of punishment; Flooding the land under deep waters, drowning people in water for persucuting His faith, and He describes our sins and troubles as a mighty, deep water. In contrast, the light heavenly dew and rushing streams are described as heavenly and good. This now gives a spiritual meaning to the waters as well as physical.

The Face of the Earth

The Mathematical Definition of a "face" is a flat planar polygon. This is true for every geometric and topological definition. In elementry schools, a sphere is taught to have 1 curved face, 0 vertices, as a part of the "scaffolding" teaching method. If you lie to children while they are young, you can build on those lies as an adult.

There are 27 references to the phrase "face of the earth" in the bible. Both spoken from Gods direct word and his followers. The earliest use of this term is in these texts. What is now a common expression was first spoken in these words. Any earlier reference must have... dropped off the face of the earth.

Genesis 1:29

Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.

Genesis 6:7

So the Lord said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created—and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground—for I regret that I have made them.”

Genesis 11:4

Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves; otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth.”

Deuteronomy 7:6

For you are a people holy to the Lord your God. The Lord your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession.

The Earths Boundries

In the bible, God does not say "And I made the world Flat" because that was not the message He was trying to convey. He does describe how He made the Earth in the Book of Genesis and in the Book of Job.

Job 38:1-18 The Lord Speaks

Then the Lord spoke to Job out of the storm. He said:

“Who is this that obscures my plans with words without knowledge? Brace yourself like a man; I will question you, and you shall answer me.

“Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me, if you understand. Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know!

Who stretched a measuring line across it? On what were its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone— while the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy?

“Who shut up the sea behind doors when it burst forth from the womb, when I made the clouds its garment and wrapped it in thick darkness, when I fixed limits for it and set its doors and bars in place, when I said, ‘This far you may come and no farther; here is where your proud waves halt’?

“Have you ever given orders to the morning, or shown the dawn its place, that it might take the earth by the edges and shake the wicked out of it? The earth takes shape like clay under a seal; its features stand out like those of a garment. The wicked are denied their light, and their upraised arm is broken.

“Have you journeyed to the springs of the sea or walked in the recesses of the deep? Have the gates of death been shown to you? Have you seen the gates of the deepest darkness? Have you comprehended the vast expanses of the earth? Tell me, if you know all this.

In this passage, Job 38, God speaks to Job, but not to give Job the justification of his ways that Job had been demanding. Instead, he asks a series of questions about creation, and the implication is that Job did not exist when God created the world, so how could he understand it? These questions expose Job's limited perspective, not his sin.

This is God's word, his description of Earths creation, designed to show humanity all that they do not know; the Earth. He talks of enclosing the earth; putting the seas behind doors and wrapping it in darkness, just as He desscribed parting the seas from space and earth. The barrier put in place: we, humanity, can come no further than the the edges He made, referring to the dome.

JUDAISM: The Talmud & Midrash

Texts specific to Judism are the Oral Traditions that were written in 200 AD. In the religion, these rules and rituals were not supposed to ever be written down. These rules were their way of life. They had to begin writing down the oral traditions, despite it being against their customs, in order to preserve the religion after the Destruction of the Second Temple.

Mishnah: Compilation of Jewish Oral Legal Traditions. Organized into six orders (agriculture, festivals, civil damages, family life, ritual purity, and sacrifices)

The Gemara: The record of debates, legal reasoning, stories, and commentary analyzing the Mishnah. Asks clarifying questions, reconciles contradictions, and applies Mishnah principles to new situations.

Talmud: The Mishnah + The Gemara

The Midrash: A methodology and literature of biblical interpretation. Instead of following the topical layout of the Mishnah, Midrash commentary follows the line-by-line or verse-by-verse flow of the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh). It splits into Halakhic Midrash (focused on legal derivations) and Aggadic Midrash (focused on ethics, folklore, narrative, and homily)

The 613 Mitzvot List: Simple list of Commandments. For example #10: "To recite the Shema twice daily (once in the morning and once at night)," citing the Torah verse Deuteronomy 6:7 ("when you lie down and when you rise")

The Talmud

Jewish Oral Legal Traditions with Commentary

The Canopy / Flat Earth References

The Babylonian Gemara: Pesachim 94b

"The sages of Israel say: 'During the day the sun travels below the sky [the firmament] and at night it travels above the sky.'The wise men of the nations say: 'During the day the sun travels below the sky, and at night it travels below the Earth.'Rabbi [Judah the Prince] said: 'And their words seem more correct than our words, because during the day, natural springs are cold, and at night they are warm [heated by the underground sun].'"

The Context: This is a scientific and cosmological debate concerning the mechanics of astronomy. The ancient near-eastern model proposed by some early sages relied on a flat Earth covered by a massive, opaque tent or dome (rakia). To explain why it becomes dark, they hypothesized that the sun ducked behind the roof of the dome at night. Sages engaged with secular Gentile astronomers who proposed a round model where the sun passed beneath the planet. Notably, the redactor of the Mishnah openly concedes that the empirical evidence favors the secular, spherical understanding.

The Babylonian Gemara: Bava Batra 25a–25b

"The world is like an exedra [a three-sided porch open on one side], and the north side is not enclosed. When the sun reaches the northwest corner, it bends back and ascends above the firmament."

The Context: This passage is brought up during a discussion on meteorology, weather systems, and the direction of prayer. Sages are trying to map out why the wind blows from different cardinal directions, how the sun completes its circuit, and where the Divine Presence (Shekhinah) physically or metaphorically rests in relation to the temple. To explain why it never gets blazing hot from the northern horizon, they relied on a flat architecture where the north side is an opening or a dark wall blocking the sun's path

The Gemara: Erubin 56a

"The sages taught: If one wishes to know where the sun enters [its circuit]... the sun travels from East to West. In the summer, it travels along the southern edge, and in the winter, it travels along the northern edge."

The Context: This is a practical legal text regarding how to establish town boundaries and determine cardinal directions for certain holiday requirements (like setting up Sabbath boundaries). The geometry used to describe the sun's seasonal paths relies entirely on a flat-plane map where the sun tracks closer or further from a central horizontal horizon across the sky.

The Gemara: Chagigah 12a (The Pillars of the Earth)

"The world stands on a single pillar, and its name is 'Righteous' (Tzaddik)... Some sages say it stands on seven pillars, as it says, 'She has hewn out her seven pillars' (Proverbs 9:1)... But the sages say it stands on twelve pillars."

The Context: In the exact same tractate dealing with Creation, the rabbis pivot to a highly metaphorical and ethical framework. Instead of treating the Earth as a planet suspended in empty space, they describe it structurally resting on structural pillars. They immediately resolve this physical description by explaining that these pillars are not stone, but moral values—the world physically and structurally persists due to the righteousness of the people living on it.

ROUND EARTH

The Mishnah & Babylonian Gemara: Avodah Zarah 3:1 / 41a
Mishnah: "All statues are prohibited [from benefit] if they hold a staff, or a bird, or a sphere (kadur)."Gemara: "Why a sphere? Because it purports to hold the entire world in its hands [as a ball]."Tosafot (Later medieval commentary printed on the page): "Like a ball—because the world is shaped like a sphere."

The Context: This is fundamentally a legal discussion on idolatry. Sages are trying to determine which types of Roman or Hellenistic statues represent specific pagan gods or symbols of ultimate royal dominion. A statue holding a globe represents cosmic power because the physical world was understood by the surrounding Greek and Roman sciences to be spherical.

The Jerusalem Talmud: Avodah Zarah 3:1
"A sphere (kadur)—because the earth is shaped like a ball... Alexander of Macedon [the Great] ascended above until he saw the world like a ball, and the sea like a basin."

The Context: Mirroring the Babylonian Talmud's legal discussion on prohibited statues, the Jerusalem Talmud explains why a ball represents the world. To illustrate this, it borrows an ancient secular legend about Alexander the Great using flying griffins or an aircraft to soar high into the sky. Looking down, he recognizes the Earth's sphericity and the way the ocean encompasses it.

The Midrash: Bamidbar Rabbah 13:17

"...one silver basin... symbolizing the Earth, which is shaped like a ball."

The Context: This is an example of homiletic, symbolic interpretation (Aggadic Midrash). The text is breaking down the exact meaning of the structural gifts brought by the tribal princes to the Tabernacle (Numbers 7:12). The Midrash attributes astronomical and physical symbolism to the shape of the physical dishes they brought, connecting a round basin to the geometry of the physical planet

The Zohar (Leviticus / Vayikra 10a)

"The entire inhabited world is rolled like a ball (chug / kadur). Some [inhabitants] are below and some are above... and all these creatures differ in their appearance because the climate changes in each place, yet they stand upright like all other human beings. Therefore, there are places on earth where, when it is light for some, it is dark for others; when it is day for some, it is night for others. And there is a place where it is entirely day, and night is only found there for a brief moment."

The Context: While the Zohar is a cornerstone text of Jewish mysticism (Kabbalah) rather than standard legal Talmud, it draws on early rabbinic traditions attributed to the Mishnaic sage Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai. This is a foundational cosmic discourse on the diversity of human creations. It explicitly outlines global time zones, gravity (people standing upright on opposite sides of a sphere), and the polar day/night cycle centuries before global navigation verified them.

The Midrash: Esther Rabbah 1:7

"The kingdom of King Ahasuerus was positioned such that he ruled over the entire world... the world is made like a ball (chug)."

The Context: This is an exegetical (textual analysis) Midrash attempting to explain the immense scope of the Persian empire mentioned in the Book of Esther ("ruling from India to Ethiopia"). The sages use the geometric reality of a spherical planet to explain that the empire essentially wrapped around the contours of the globe.

The Gemara: Chagigah 12a
"With the light that the Holy One, Blessed be He, created on the first day, a person could see from one end of the world to the other."

The Context: This appears in a complex mystical and philosophical discussion regarding the creation of the universe (Ma'aseh Bereshit). The rabbis note that physical light is blocked by the curvature of the Earth and obstructions, so the primordial light of Creation had to be spiritually "hidden away" because regular physical sight on our current planet is naturally limited by its geometry.

CHRISTIANITY: The New Testament

Adopted Jewish scriptures as its Old Testament. Added the Gospels, Acts, Epistles, and Revelation as The New Testament.

Jesus' followers come to believe he is the Messiah. Christianity emerges as a distinct religious movement.
Christian writings are produced, including the Gospels, Acts, letters, and Revelation. These eventually form the New Testament.
Christians adopt Jewish scriptures as their Old Testament.

The Four Corners of Earth

Not the strongest arguement to be made, but still a reference to the shape of the Earth. The bible is God's word and he chooses his words deliberatly. It should be noted that Revelations is a uniquly Christian Book.

Ezekiel 7:2 “Son of man, this is what the Sovereign Lord says to the land of Israel: “‘The end! The end has come upon the four corners of the land!

Revelation 7:1 After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree.

Revelation 20:8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.

ISLAM: The Quran

Islam is a major monotheistic Abrahamic religion based on the belief in one God (Allah) and that Muhammad is His final prophet. They follow the lineage of Abrahams first son, Ishmael. Almost 3000 years after Abraham, 600 years after Jesus, after some of the Jewish scriptures and temples were lost in wars, the Prophet Muhammad received his first recitation from the angel Gabriel in the Cave of Hira near Mecca and over a period of 23 years, he wrote the Quran. The Quran is the final, corrected sequel to the Tankha/Old Testament, which Muslims believe were originally divine revelations that became altered over centuries of human transmission.

• The Torah (Tawrat): Revealed to Moses (Musa).

• The Psalms (Zabur): Revealed to David (Dawud).

• The Gospel (Injeel): Revealed to Jesus (Isa).

Islam teaches that while the original spiritual revelations given to those prophets were perfect, the text of the modern Hebrew Bible and Christian Old Testament underwent Tahrif (corruption or alteration) over time through human editing, translation errors, or political manipulation.

The Fall of Man: In the Torah (Genesis), Eve is tempted by a serpent, eats the fruit, tempts Adam, and humanity is punished with "Original Sin," passing a fallen nature down to all generations. In the Quran (Surah Al-A'raf), Satan tempts both Adam and Eve equally. They both sin, they immediately repent, God forgives them completely, and humanity is born pure without inheriting any ancestral guilt.
The Character of the Prophets: In the Old Testament, prophets are deeply human and frequently commit severe sins (e.g., King David committing adultery with Bathsheba, or Aaron helping build the Golden Calf). In the Quran, all prophets are protected by God from major moral sins (Ismah). The Quran fiercely defends their character; for example, it states that Aaron did not build the Golden Calf but actively tried to stop the Israelites from worshiping it.
The Binding of Abraham's Son: In the Torah (Genesis 22), Abraham is commanded to sacrifice his son Isaac. In the Islamic tradition and mainstream interpretations of the Quran (Surah As-Saffat), the son to be sacrificed is understood to be his firstborn, Ishmael.
The Creation Cycle: In Genesis, God creates the universe in six days and rests on the seventh. The Quran agrees with the six days of creation but explicitly rejects the idea of God resting, stating in Surah Qaf, "And weariness did not touch Us."

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